I play a lot of classic rock(zep,allman brothers,etc) also love the blues, I play a lot of classic rock(zep,allman brothers,etc) also love the blues. It could not be counted upon to give FF the plummy warmth and sweetness of Big Bird. I beg to difer with you on the use of Maple in acoustic guitars. Looks and sounds incredible! It's your choice. However, with regards to the Hummingbird, my artists series sounds closer to the true vintage than the modern classic. with capo transposer, play along with guitar, piano, ukulele & … You probably have three real good guitars within reach - to be honest I don't think we should choose for you. I worked with Graham Gouldman from 10CC recently, and he has a great SJ200 from '07, which sounds terrific but very light on the bottom end. I am having the guitar built with a standard classical neck/bridge arrangement, including a completely flat fingerboard. It is not that the J45 sounded bad' date=' it is that I prefer the sound of the HB... My J-45 (2007) was purchased new but needed a good deal of fret work due to a bump in the neck. Choose wisely, Grasshopper. he paid $1900cdn for it in 1990. this is the most gigantic guitar i've ever heard. I beg to difer with you on the use of Maple in acoustic guitars. They produce two kinds of guitars which are the Gibson Studio and the Gibson Standard. I cant believe it..bolts since 1930's..I didnt know.   Pasted as rich text. World-renowned for its full, balanced expression, warm bass and excellent projection, the J-45 has … However........... if you plan on gigging, recording, etc. The sound is amazing! If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The distinction drawn by Mr. Stanchfield between his capacity as a natural person and his capacity to act in some other way is entirely of his own doing, and is devoid of any support in the case law. If I had none of the three, I'd hope for a chance to play all three before I picked one. I guess its ace in the hole is that deep, dry thump you get from pickin' single notes on a J-200. The quality of workmanship is exceptional. Mersey, if you won't touch a Gibson flattop with bridge bolts then you are leaving most vintage Gibsons for the rest of us. Now I have a Takamine Jumbo EN 20 and when I record a song I use a microphone (Shure SM 57). Places where, guitaristically, less is more. lol. level 1. Thanks I need to read all this . If you're playing for yourself, spend the money and get the true vintage, you won't regret it. The 45 is actually better balanced, string to string, but the stika/hog combo can be jangly, and is not for everybody. Paste as plain text instead, × I had narrowed it down to the Hummingbird or Sparrow. Copyright 2019 Gibson Brands, Inc. All rights reserved. By I'm sure I will have a great sound with a Gibson acoustic because I already have three solid body guitars and they sound good. I know it's very difficult but I haven't the choice. Please take a look at the Sheryl Crow model as well. If I could only have one of the three..... for me, (and this is such a personal thing), I'd want the Dove. A quick sum up: J45 Id wager is the most versatile: tubby bass, good bark, clear singing top end top. When I haven't picked mine up for a day or two, my fingers LONG to play it. Terms & Conditions | Registered Trademarks. Upload or insert images from URL. A little bigger than I expected, and a lot bigger sound. The Blues King is a top notch guitar. All guitar companies make a few duds. to play but there isnt one within 3500K of here. In short, it's dry as the desert in June. Sellers are OK to order them but they have none in their store so I don't know their real sound. Reply. I know there's no preamp on TV models and I like that but is it really interesting for me since TV are more expensive than MC ? Not even sure why they stopped. Should play em & compare...ever since I heard the J45 has a couple of bolts under bridge I wouldn't go looking for that..I'd try & find a J45 TV to try instead. Find what works for you. I'd buy the J-45...but then I have a couple of Doves and a 'Bird already! (Image credit: Phil Barker / Future) Feel & Sounds. However, these two kinds of instruments differ in features and style. The compact series come standard with many of the same features offered on larger models. Wow' date=' you must have tried the only SJ-200 dud in existence! I've played a hummingbird before and loved it but I've read that customshop Montana's are suppose to be 10x's better. I'd pick the Dove, primarily BECAUSE I have a Hummingbird and a J45. I had a Hummingbird, once upon a time, but couldn't get past the bling, was afraid I might scratch it or something. j100 is on my short list (what isn't?) Like Master Cunkhead once said. It has a tonal quality that is unmatched. It just sounds better. Find what works for you. Froggy--an often discussed topic. Gibson Hummingbird Standard Acoustic-Electric Guitar (with Case) $3,849.00. I'd pick the Dove, primarily BECAUSE I have a Hummingbird and a J45. I have played the MC, and the bracing seems to look the same. A great marketing idea, as I played guitars I had never seen in stores. I say if you want a hummingbird, then order one. It is hard find even a good sound clip of one anywhere.   You cannot paste images directly. Hummingbird vs J45 There are lots of versions of J-45's, and Gibson's have been all over the map in recent years, as far as tone and quality. On a side note, my 61’ J45 doesn’t really sound very J45 to me, not as much thump (but still has VERY good bass response) and better sustain, with all the notes being a bit more even, which works a little better for me. Forget about it! FF- Zim offers that "the Hummingbird ..is more balanced, at least to me." Now I imagine their sound and I think I will order a Hummingbird in True Vintage. Honestly, with it's reputation and size, I expected more from the SJ-200. And I wonder if True Vintage is really a good deal or if Modern classics models are enough. Those suckers moves the air, but they are more resoundin' than ringin'. i hope to see one at the michigan guitar show on the 30th. It sounds like you are looking for one very narrowly defined sound and all others are not worthy. Considering all three are in mint condition, the playability of each guitar would be the big thing for me. buy an SJ-200 and let your worries fall by the wayside! Couldn't have said it better! The bass thumps, the trebles die quick, the overtones are MIA. Blindfolded, his and mine would seem to be utterly different guitars. × A more classic look, but similar in playability and sound to the J45, wouldn't mind having one, but that's down the line some barring a lottery victory. lol[/color']. I think a Hummingbird is a great all-round choice...special looks, knockout tone and wonderful playability. I have a 1970 Hummingbird and a Songwriter Deluxe and for a second I thought about picking up a J-45 but I just don't need another guitar. get the modern classic. Maybe a modestly sized Collings? The j-45 is least expensive out of the 3 but sounds amazing and kit as good as the other 2. I want one. I was about to buy one when an 05 J-45 Historic surfaced on Graig's List for a grand less. The Bird moves more air and has a deeper sound than the J45, but less cut/brilliance. Gibson Standard is considered the flagship guitar of the Gibson Company. I have never had that with another guitar, an actual physical yearning in my fingers to pick it up.[/quote']. There's no power nor bass. The Bird, like most square shoulder dreads, accentuates low tones, so what Z is saying is that he appreciates the "bass bias" of the bird. Now it plays great. One day I went trying to really make a decision on which one to buy. Then J-45 is your guitar, but best to play it first as they really vary guitar to guitar. It will be my next one lord willing and the river don't rise. However, I may end treating myself to a Martin D-18 or Hummingbird someday. Pretty comfortable to play for a big box. + 7 S … Pretty comfortable to play for a big box. Flamed Froggy, November 17, 2008 in Gibson Acoustic. that hog (remember that tree guy that gave us heck for saying "hog"?) FF- Zim offers that "the Hummingbird ..is more balanced' date=' at least to me." Since I recently got my Gibson J45 I noticed that the radius is more curved than either my Breedlove or Martin, which are extremely flat. But do consider the long scale vs the short scale (the J-45). A lot more sound than you expect. It was first introduced in 1947, and since then the guitar has set and unmatched standard. Don't know if it was because it was a Washburn or because it was maple.......Still, already having "the bird" and a J45 I'd very likely go with the Dove. I'd pick the Dove, primarily BECAUSE I have a Hummingbird and a J45. It may not have so much brightness, but it is more balanced, at least to me, being a little bit bassier than the J45. I challenge you to a duel!! Product Registration Customer Service Repair and Restoration Report Counterfeits Serial Number FAQ Gibson Guitar Specs (2015-2019) Dealer Resource Center Locate A If you like maple and can do without the 'edges' of hog and rose (f.x. Different bracing, different guitar. Me, I'd tend toward the J, but... after playing all three I might have a totally different feeling. Personally the J-45 would be my choice of the three. He's one of my favorite players, and frankly, I'm not crazy about Gibson using his name like they are on the guitar when he probably paid $20 bucks for his, but it's an incredible sounding guitar. The back opened up and they had a few dozen guitars on disply, tuned up and let anyone strolling by play what they wanted to. ... Save gibson j45 standard to get e-mail alerts and updates on your eBay Feed. (I have a Doves In Flight.). My buddy owns one, and damned if it isn't one of the most spectacular-sounding guitars I've ever played. I love the long scale. I think that the HC is half way between the MC & TV, because there is no pickups in the HC's. Been reading that the j-45 is most versital guitar and can be used for many different types of playing. Both the Studio and the G-45 Standard pictured here use utile for the neck. Powerful sound ?   Your link has been automatically embedded. The 45 is actually better balanced, string to string, but the stika/hog combo can be jangly, and is not for everybody. I'll try to stop buy guitar center on way from work so I can play them. All the newer ones now have scalloped bracing. Model: # AC4518VSNH. Here in France it's pretty hard to find these guitars. 1 Options P-90 / P-100 Pickup Covers $16.99. Perhaps a smaller-bodied rosewood guitar would also be a good choice. Em7, all I need is another guitar right now...lol... My wife would kill me and that would be the nicest thing she would do. Product Registration Customer Service Repair and Restoration Report Counterfeits Serial Number FAQ Gibson Guitar Specs (2015-2019) Dealer Resource Center Locate A [E G A Eb D Em C Gbm F B Abm Bm Gb Gm Bb] Chords for Gibson J45 True Vintage vs J45 Standard Comparison - Which guitar sounds better? As for the modern classic and true vintage models, I've played both side by side. Mention Priority Code: 201-RJ53 Email Us. I challenge you to a duel!! good one! The songwriter and songwriter deluxe......excellent guitars! Turn heads with this unique J-45 Studio, hand-built using rosewood back and sides with a Sitka spruce top. Balance generally refers to string to string volume across the tonal spectrum. Listen to samples on Ytube. The new Hog SJ100 is unbelievable, btw. Gibson produces the world’s most famous Gibson Les Paul electric guitars. I worked with Graham Gouldman from 10CC recently, and he has a great SJ200 from '07, which sounds terrific but very light on the bottom end. If I were you I'd go with the Dove. Gibson used these bolts for 60+ years without a problem. Weak.......?????????????????????????????????? There's no power nor bass. I had tried it before, but it seemed dark sounding. This past March, I made one of my dreams come true by buying a Gibson J45. You can post now and register later. The SJ200 Vine...........the most beautiful guitar I have ever laid eyes on! I guess with the scallop braces, one doesn't have to wait 40 years for it to sound "old". Again, the SJ-200 sounded fine, but not like the others. For ex-check out Rev. $250.00/mo. The store I played them at had a great selection of both, and once there was a mobile Gibson truck that had stopped by on a day I visited. More bass ? Gibson Brands, Inc. respects your right to privacy. I love the slope shoulders. I've never played a dove but always loved their looks and such a iconic guitar. 1 Options Control Plate $14.99. Here a Hummingbird TV costs €3,000 it means about $3800 so I have to be sure. Welcome aboard, whats your style of playing ? Also, I've always been curious regarding the Dove. The 2012 j45 standard do not have bolts holding down the bridge. I have a friend with a $9,000 custom Taylor........ it's nowhere close to any of the Hummingbird or J-45 models. By hmm........ are you sure you played an SJ200???? I think a Hummingbird is a great all-round choice...special looks, knockout tone and wonderful playability. Flatpick, fingerpick, works in a lot of styles (Blues to Beatles to Bluegrass to Busking). But if you like it dry--that thump can be great for comping chords and intricate fingerstyle runs. By submitting this form you are agreeing to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy. More lightly braced hence more responsive. I'm happy beyond words that I made this my first high end guitar purchase. One thing that's worth mentioning: the J-45, with it's sloped shoulders, is a smaller guitar. Wow, you must have tried the only SJ-200 dud in existence! Lastly, I can't overstate how wonderful the J-45 is for songwriting. The Arlo Guthrie model wasn't impressive. An SJ-200 may be a lot of things, but "weak" is not one of them!! (Any model) The MC is very nice. 2. I guess I've been curious about maple for years. Modern features, such as slimmer body dimensions and an easily accessible neck profile, join well-established designs, such as the concealed dovetail neck joints. "Finding a good SJ-200 is like falling out of a boat and finding water." Gibson G-45 Standard. Besides, if a player longs for warmth, deep bass, and ringing trebles (as an affacianado of the Hummingbird might), then the J200 will not pass muster. Better than many comparably priced guitars, but not a Hummingbird or J-45. Truss Rod Cover Les Paul Standard $19.99. I want to own one day own one along with a J-200, but for my money, hands down, the best sounding guitar I have heard or played, is the Hummingbird. I have not played a real old one - anyone here have? Not so Birds-- the 25.5 scale ones before 99 dont have the sound. cosmetics of the Hummingbird. The Bird, like most square shoulder dreads, accentuates low tones, so what Z is saying is that he appreciates the "bass bias" of the bird. Body size is pretty big but sound is weak. I am a confirmed SJ nut' date=' my SJ200 is very balanced and is a great all-rounder, but I have played some that are very bass-light. It's a wonderful strummer, but I also enjoy for fingerpicking. 5 months ago. I use 012 strings and am very happy with the sound, being exactly what I expected. Absolutely gorgeous, and a great sound, it and the true vintage sounded better than the modern classic or the Montana Gold editions. When I haven't picked mine up for a day or two, my fingers LONG to play it. As for SJ 200' date=' I already tested one and I didn't like it. I feel you prefer hummingbird but you didn't tell me why. What years are the bolts used and what are/were they there for? The new Hummingbird Original blends vintage appointments and today's modern, high-quality build construction.   Your previous content has been restored. Paste as plain text instead, × Blindfolded, his and mine would seem to be utterly different guitars. As the owner of a J-45 and Martin HD-28V, I've sorta convinced myself that I really don't need any more acoustic guitars. Copyright 2019 Gibson Brands, Inc. All rights reserved. Ladd279, January 29, 2013 in Gibson Acoustic. 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